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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 23/10/2006 16:20:49
So, it seams we have a new issue (finally) hitting the agenda.
People paying rl money for getting ISK, as a person that has been playing games for more than 20 year and online games since 1999 I look at selling GTC for isk as BLATANT CHEATING.
It can possibly break the game, because the game is based on certain principles such as risk vs reward/investment/time vs reward.
Selling gtc undermines this.
CCP, hear our plea! Yes GTC buys you more Ferraris but seriously its starting to hurt the community you claim to love.
God knows how the alliance map would look like if there were no gtc.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Another person upset that he can't sell his isk on ebay - please ban 'Death Kill' CCP.
You can do beter than that, come on...I belive in you
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
The new rabble, people buying in game advantages with real life time. They sit play for hours and hours and hours each day essentially overwhleming other players not by being better but by simply giving up everything else in life to sit at a keyboard. It offers far greater than rewards than even money can buy
Complete and utter rubbish. You can buy your way to 100 billion isk faster than you can farm or whatever.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 23/10/2006 20:33:59
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
So why do you care? The only possible reason is damage to the ebay market.
You--------------------------------------->The point.
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A player can buy as much ISK as they want, but without the troops to back it up, they will still be a marginal figure in eve politics. ISK is fuel, but without the players to use it, then it is pointless.
A player, how bout A alliance?
If you are unable to add 2+2 from my original post then I womnt bothed wasting more time on you.
Ebaying can be limited, deny all trial accounts the rights to transfer money. And possibly put limitations on transfer amount on new characters.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 23/10/2006 20:54:51
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Originally by: Death Kill
Ebaying can be limited, deny all trial accounts the rights to transfer money. And possibly put limitations on transfer amount on new characters.
I repeat my request to CCP to investigate your account. You are trying to boost your ebay sales.
No one could be stupid enough as to post the above. You are definitely doing this for ulterior motives.
No one can be this stupid.
Do you even know how to read, or do you have a monkey next to you typing your reply?
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Posted - 2006.10.24 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sha'ha'dem
Edited by: Sha''ha''dem on 24/10/2006 08:48:20
From you we see the problem with playing video games for 20 years, you spent so much time in frivolous pursuits that you failed to actually acquire any really knowledge or understanding
Amazing, please teach me more.
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Have you ever wondered why people cheat, what cheating is? Have you considered that everyone lives their lives a little differently, have differing wants and needs, have different obligations..
Im sorry, how is this rellevant AT ALL? Thats right, it isnt.
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SO allow me to enlighten you.
Oh dear, here we go....
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Firstly, let me start by debunking this idea of risk vs reward. What risk vs reward really refers to is the amount of reward some person needs for taking on some risk, and the amount of reward some person needs is based on their risk aversion which varies from person to person. Let that sink in for a bit, because it's pretty important. What we have here is an explanation for a lot of the behavior we see in Eve and within our daily lives, why some people are thrilled by heavy death penalties and why some people rob convenience stores.
You are a mere poser, pretending to "know stuff" yet you make the incredible STUPID maistake of comparing RL with EVE
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As for isk buyers being able to have a cutting edge during pvp, this again can not be shown to be true. PVP is a time irrelevant process. What matters is the outcome, not the steps leading up to the outcome
This has to be the most stupid thing I have read in a long time. You are under the assumption that isk buyers are n00bs buying their way into EVE, Im sure there is plenty of older players who buy isk.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus
Some guys must understand that there is a LOT of people that likes to play MMO. But due to work and family, cannot play more than 2 or 3 hours er week.
Then EVE isnt for you, or you would have to settle with less of EVE has to offer since EVE unlike World of Warcarft IS time consuming.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus
My god.. you don't get it? It does not matter if Eve is for me. It matter if there are enough people of the other type to keep CCp working all by themselves?
Yes my dear Polinus I do get it. EVE is a compeditive game, and you want people who can only play a few hours a week compete with people who play everyday.
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EVE already does not have a hugea array of subscribers, and cutting out 90% of world population won't help CCP.
For a single sharded game EVE hs alot of subscribers, I would take single sharded 'only 100k subscribers' over sharded world of warcrap '10 billion subscribers' anyday!
You want a game that you can play a few hours a week, world of warcraft is such a game.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 24/10/2006 15:06:39
Originally by: Rick Dentill
GTC is accepted by CCP. The cynical view being because they still get paid for it. The more open minded view being that it allows people without a means to pay to still play.
I've given this some though. Considering that the average EVE player is (IIRC) 27 years old thats not really a valid argument. If you are over the age of 18 and not living on the moon it shouldnt be hard to aquire a bankcard that allows online transactions at all.
Good/bad echonomy has nothing to do with it, as VISA issues cards that dont give credit yet allows you to buy stuff online.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 24/10/2006 18:27:10
Originally by: Riley Craven
Why should you care if it doesnt affect you?
Why would anyone care aboyut anything as long as it doesnt affect them?
See?
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People get squimish over the stupidest things. Its just a game afterall.
Wrong! EVE isnt a game, its a hobby.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 24/10/2006 18:33:41
Originally by: Tundaar
Hmm look at the math for that
No, 100 billion was a number I randomly choosed.
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On a slightly more personal note recent RL developments have severely dented my ability to spend a lot of time in game. Just because I now have a young family and work out of town most days without aa PC does it mean that I should take my main and spend every second online (approx 3 hours per week now) Mining or mission running to afford new ships/skills? (which I then wouldn't be able to have time to use)
So basically what you are saying is that your situasion is supposed to affect those that do have the time for EVE and the way it was ment to be?
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No instead I chose to occasionaly sell some GTC so that I can actually enjoy the time I have in game without some fo the Grind (which I would haappily do if I had the time).
Ahhh but you want it both ways, pitty people like you are ruining the value of hard work.
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I know that a number of people I have spoken to would not be able to afford to keep playing if they could not buy GTC with ISK.
Yet they magically manage to pay their internet bill?
Rubbish!
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Killing off this processs would mean that they would be forced out of the game (or forced into breaking the EULA by selling ISK to buy subscription) just because they don't earn much in real life. Again a little unfair.
I'm a student. I AM POOR, yet I'm able to afford EVE. If you cant afford EVE without breaking the game then you should spend money on food instead of computer games.
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Selling GTC is not an ideal situation but it is better than the alternatives, It keeps the buyer in the game, It allows the seller to have ISK and it adds to CCPs income so they can afford to develop new things in the game. win/win/win as the ISK spent actually feeds the game (unlike ebaying)
CCP has enough money, and they have too many subscribers for the servers to be able to handle them. If 5000 people left it would only benefit the rest.
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It's only the grind mechanic and time/experence which gets broken and that I can live with
Its 'only the gring mechanic'?
Thats 50% of the game. It breaks the game!
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus
On company point on view, Blizzard is zillion times more sucessfull than CCP, in fact is by far the most successfull game company around the world. Since with a single title it get more than 1 Billion dollars per year!
CCP doesnt spend a trillion Euro's in marketing. CCP is a small company with fewer employees and yet they are able to provide us with a superior product.
Seriously, dont compare CCP with Blizzard.
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